Relocating rugby league clubs disenchants new fans and disenfranchises existing ones. A merger of Sydney Dragon-Sharks would be logical. The Northern Eagles ultimately didnt represent anyone from Milsons Point to North Turramurra, from west Willoughby to east Epping. See www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscriptionterms for full details. Missed out. You can read him at his, How to play NRL fantasy: Our top tips for picking the best team to beat your mates, Round 1 team lists Late Mail: Titans star tears ACL, Thompson set to miss season, Roosters duo out, Hynes hobbled. For all the people saying the CEO and Commissioners need to be "RL people", just remember; A solution that may work is a Bears and seaeagles in nsw Cup remain as sepeate identities and a new club takes the license, based at Gosford but with couple of games in manly/NS. New South Wales Origin coach Brad Fittler has suggested the Sea Eagles and Bears combine with the Central Coast region to form a "behemoth" club stretching north from the CBD all the way to Gosford and beyond. Home delivery is not available in all areas. Former North Sydney internationals Greg Florimo and David Fairleigh play a prominent role in the club's push to join the NRL. I didnt hear much more of his explanation because I was gob-dangling speechless that old mate was actually talking about Papua New bloody Guinea as a dinkum locale for a red-and-black comeback. Manly Sea Eagles and North Sydney Bears must merge into a 'behemoth' club, says Brad Fittler, Cameron Smith reveals the 'difficulty' of not having a consistent halfback for the 2018 season. JavaScript is disabled. In 2014 facilities comprised two dining areas, function rooms, a 530-seat auditorium, a fitness and wellness centre, indoor and outdoor lounge areas, a bottle shop, a TAB, two squash courts, a courtesy bus service, a members rewards program and a multi-level car park for 320 vehicles. Adding a team in Sydney would appear to fly in the face of the theres too many teams in Sydney argument. And Dr Fujaks research tells us this: Canterbury has 440,000 people in their catchment. Not only would it be good I think its a must for the NRL to look at and this is the time, the time is right now.. Even more transparent, in a back-arsed sort of way. They went to the Swans and the Waratahs. The Northern Eagles were a rugby league team that competed in the National Rugby League (NRL) between 2000 and 2002. No cancellations during the first 12 months. The club was formed during the rationalisation process of the NRL by the merger of the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles and the North Sydney Bears in 2000. Heart and soul of the North Sydney Bears Greg Florimo has weighed in on the proposal to re-merge Manly and the Bears. He was introducing me to the dry, gallows humour that accompanied any seasoned observer of the Bears. A historic quote for the family. Full Digital Access + Weekend Paper Delivery $8 billed every 4 weeks for the first 12 weeks, then $36 billed every 4 weeks. I was eight, Norths were first. [citation needed] In spite of this, the club provided more players for the 2001 State of Origin series' New South Wales team than any other club. People can also support a team though theyve never set foot in their zone. In 2019 the Australian Rugby League Commission cobbled together a white paper of sorts, a plan to prop up under-performing Sydney NRL clubs with revenue that would apparently flow from broadcasters once the club had relocated to a new place where people watch telly. the fun and become a member of the community, You can share sports stories, experiences, match reports, The club competes in the New South Wales Cup, having exited the National Rugby League following the 1999 NRL season after 90 years in the premier rugby league competition in Australia. But it should still be done. Bring Back The Bears! Cheaper and easier than focus groups. In that time Norths made the preliminary final 4 times but lost on each occasion. While the Dolphins will. Sport; NRL; NRL 2022: Peter V'landys reveals thoughts on North Sydney Bears, Western Australian merge proposal. Newcastle, and Andrew Johns, then 19, beat us at home. As Lane Cove was in North Sydney's district, the club protested to the NSWRFL and claimed Hyde from Balmain. Bring Back The Bears! Manly has 270,000. They knew: tribalism is good. For mine, sports fans, that is freakin La La Land. And they didn't. [33], On 5 September 2018, North Sydney announced that they were ending their agreement with South Sydney Rabbitohs to act as their reserve grade side and had signed a 5 year deal to join the Sydney Roosters as their new feeder club team for the 2019 season. 13.3K followers. Consider: six hundred thousand people live from Kirribilli to Hornsby Heights, from the Roseville Bridge to north-west Ryde. North Sydney's Captain-coach in the Grand Final of 1943 was the future doyen of rugby league broadcasters, Frank Hyde. The Bears bid committee is lobbying the NRL for inclusion as the next expansion team. "If Souths dont agree with what were doing and decide its not in our interest, we will look at the other avenues we have to ensure we have a competitive ISP side. Relocating rugby league clubs disenchants new fans and disenfranchises existing ones. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Don't need to have surfed the Long Reef bommie to back the maroon and white. [50], Throughout 2017 there was much media speculation around North Sydney and their moves to purchase the struggling Gold Coast Titans licence when it went on sale by The NRL. Renewals occur unless cancelled in accordance with the full Terms and Conditions. The club initially struggled to obtain access to North Sydney Oval, but council obstruction was removed and the Shoremen played their first real home game in 1910. You are using an out of date browser. Consider: six hundred thousand people live from Kirribilli to Hornsby Heights, from the Roseville Bridge to north-west Ryde. And youd only need one in 20 of these people to buy a jumper, go to a game, whack a sticker on the back of their Pajero and boom, theyve brought back the North Sydney Bears. Mergers mean dogs and cats living together in unholy matrimony. Perth team? Hes done the PhD, bought the T-shirt. The people of Gosford preferred to wait until a home-grown team was based there. With only seconds remaining Norths frantically threw the ball around and lost it, the ball was swooped up by Newcastle's Owen Craigie and he raced away to score a try and won the game. For those who wish to see the Bears return to the top grade, it is hard to conceive of a comment more inviting. Not in conjunction with any other offer. Dickson will later be joined in a box by Australian comedian Jim Jeffries, an avid Bears man, who once said my big dream in life is that Ill make enough money that Ill buy the Bears back into the NRL. They didn't win many, these Bears. No cancellations during the first 12 months. Manly has 270,000. A valid active email address and Australian mobile phone number are required for account set up. We used to cry when the Bears won a game! Guttural laughter from my uncles. [13] That year they came within one match of the grand final but lost to Canberra. If you subscribe directly with us you will also get access to our News+ Network which is made up of some of our most popular news sites, like. If the NRL wants to expand it should look inside itself: And bring back the North Sydney Bears. The club was formed at the North Sydney School of Arts in Mount Street on 7 February 1908. On 8 November 2022, the Sydney Roosters announced that they would be ending their partnership deal with North Sydney at the end of the 2023 season. Gold Coast? Penrith (590,000) is about the same. [25], In the 2017 season, Norths finished 6th on the ladder and qualified for the finals. And he said the NRL told these guys not to use the media to play things out. Full Digital Access + Weekend Paper Delivery 12 Month Plan costs $312 (min. And if there were a Bears team to call their own, local people would invest in the Bears, consume the Bears, love the Bears. North Sydney Bears. And it would be magnificent. The Bears are not in agreement with anyone, Dickson told SENZ Breakfast Radio recently. The Northern Eagles shared their home games between Brookvale Oval in Sydney and Grahame Park in Gosford. Norths then had to wait 10 years to make the finals again, this time against Balmain where they lost 11-9. [20], On 28 August 1999, Norths played their final game as a first grade side against the North Queensland Cowboys in Townsville. Captured a great grassroots sporting moment? Playing half of their games in Manly and half on the Central Coast, the merged was a complete and utter failure. Manly's licence is redistributed to a WA or Bris2 franchise. [40], There is a movement for a return to first-grade Rugby League for the club, with the North Sydney Bears moving to Gosford (on the Central Coast, New South Wales) and becoming the Central Coast Bears. They lost their first semi final to Newcastle Knights but had a chance to remain in the running of the competition the week after only to give up a 246 lead to the Newtown Jets and lose in extra time 32-30 from a Daniel Mortimer 35-metre penalty goal. The partnership folded in 2002, with Manly emerging as the stand-alone entity. [31][32], On 25 August 2018, Norths lost their last game of the season against the New Zealand Warriors due to a last minute try scored by Chanel Harris-Tavita. And they would dinkum hang from the trees. The Dragons have 260,000 (not counting the Illawarra). But they are separate, distinct entities. Policy played out in the court of public opinion; its how we roll in the twenties. The Dragons have 260,000 (not counting the Illawarra). Cheaper and easier than focus groups. It explains that if you do not provide us with information we have requested from you, we may not be able to provide you with the goods and services you require. And there are lots and lots and lots of eyeballs. Norths & Easts. two very financially strong leagues clubs together. [43], The Central Coast Bears have 7,200 financial members with new members joining weekly. Madness, of course. East Coast Roosters (or "Easts" for short). At a private event some years ago, a former senior administrator in the NRL laughed in the face of a Bears official explicating the case for a return on the Central Coast in a ground the club built, underwritten by John Singleton, coached by Wayne Bennett. The Great Dane Sep 3, 2018 Prev 1 2 3 4 Next flippikat Bench Messages 3,489 Sep 18, 2018 #21 Hello said: I dont know why they would need to play any games in Brooky or NSO. [55][56][57], On 9 August 2019, rugby league immortal Andrew Johns said that having a team on the Central Coast would be a "no-brainer". It may not display this or other websites correctly. Billy Moore, Greg Florimo and a massive bear (left). During that time, North Sydney produced arguably the greatest winger the game has ever seen in Ken Irvine. They were beaten 20-15 by Weller Hauraki, scoring a controversial try with just 13 seconds to go, which many believed should not have been allowed due to a forward pass. West Australian desire. North Melbourne withdraws from the merger race. Donnelly was the voluntary administrator of the North Sydney Rugby League Club when financial difficulties forced it out of the NRL competition at the end of 1999. Hes a doctor of demographics. On 21 May 2018, Carney officially signed with North Sydney, in reaction to the signing, General Manager of football at Souths Shane Richardson said "We've spoken to Norths about Todd Carney and it's our position that we will develop our young halves, as opposed to bringing in a player from outside the club in this instance," Richardson said. Its never easy, is it? The Bears are prepared to move anywhere as part of their bid to become the NRL's 18th team but there are some "non-negotiables" they won't budge on. But it looks like Australian Rugby League Commission chairman Peter Vlandys disagrees. "We went with the Dolphins for the 17th because they had a strong business . The winner of the match was to play minor premiers Manly in The Grand final. Manly officially returned to the NRL in 2003 (playing out of Brookvale Oval, though they played at least two games per season in Gosford until 2015) and have since played in four NRL Grand Finals (2007, 2008, 2011 and 2013), winning the premiership in 2008 and 2011. I had a yarn once with an academic, Hunter Fujak, of University Technology Sydney. The North Sydney Bears would be back and there would be, give us your best Rabbits Warren, deadset jubilation. As would electric Dog-Eels. On a fine and sunny afternoon at dear little Brookie, against the Eels, say, thered be what 15,000 fans? Please call us on 1800 070 535 and well help resolve the issue or try again later. But like said abominable Northern Eagles, they would be horrible. Follow the Bears. NRL Round 1 Talking Points - early edition: Whos confident? They have to be from somewhere, represent some patch. Like Illawarra got the socks in their merge and the Magpies got Campbelltown occasionally, the Bears got shafted in the merge. And they could again. They love the club. Red & Black Foundation. The 2002 season was played under the Northern Eagles name, although effectively the club was the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles by another name. Matt Cleary is a sports writer from Sydney. North Sydney reportedly placed a $7 million bid to purchase The Gold Coast Licence and as part of the bid if they were to be successful was to rename the side The Gold Coast Bears and continue to play games at Robina plus taking two games to North Sydney Oval with one game being held against fierce rivals The Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles. North Sydney chose to join the temporary Presidents Cup competition which involved teams from country New South Wales and the Ron Massey Cup. Dont worry mate, he consoled me, gently putting a fatherly arm around me as I tried to hide my flood of tears from my uncles. linktr.ee/northsydneybearsofficial. The North Sydney Bears would be back and there would be, give us your best Rabbits Warren, deadset jubilation. The Roosters 200,000. Is it time to dream? If you'd like to see more content from Matt Cleary, they'd be very grateful for your support and contribution. And if you brought back the North Sydney Bears to represent these 600,000 people in the northern suburbs of Sydney - and the 400,000 people of the Central Coast - it would be an instant and irrevocable success. Brookvale is already well below the standard that should be required to home an NRL team and things are only getting worse. Home ground - North Sydney Oval. Same-same. Theres thousands and thousands of Bears fans out there and bringing them all together would make a big statement, Mullan said. New customers only. And Dr Fujaks research tells us this: Canterbury has 440,000 people in their catchment. They love that place. Nothing locked in, of course, not officially. Each payment, once made, is non-refundable, subject to law. It could take up to 5 business days before your first paper delivery arrives. Its why people follow footy teams. Not sure if you missed it Freddy but the Bears already did merge with Manly. And if there were Bears people would invest in the Bears, consume the Bears, love the Bears. Wouldn't be surprised if Uncle Nick has seen the writing on the wall for Manly as a business and is ready to pick off carcass of the Sea Eagles Roosters/Norths absorb Manly, become the Northern Roosters and encompass the eastern and northern beaches all the way to Gosford. Their subsequent, rapid demise was not organic, and hundreds of thousands of Bears people are still out there, wandering. Now Brad Fittler wants the Manly Bears. He recently told The Daily Telegraph: Wherever I go every third person asks me when are you bringing back the Bears?., Speaking specifically about the proposed 18th team in the NRL, Vlandys went on to say: One thing Ive learned in rugby league is that the Bears have an extremely popular brand. [34] To be a part, even if its a minor part, of a northern Sydney nrl club or remain a nswrl leagues club suburban entity? Sat 25 Jun 2022 16.00 EDT Last modified on Sat 25 Jun 2022 18.49 EDT Matt has interviewed just about everyone in Australian sport, and has a massive Rolodex of Australian sports folk. Matt is the Tribunes head curator of content. It made sense to relocate one of the Sydney teams to the Central Coast". And they didnt. Hyde, who was living in Lane Cove at the time, had been forced to switch from Balmain to Norths in 1941 due to the league's residency rules which stated that a player was required to live in their club's district. How long does it take for my home delivery to start? Rebranded as Norths, the North Sydney Leagues Club was established by the district's football club, the North Sydney Bears, in 1955 in a house in the Sydney suburb of Neutral Bay. Port Moresby, for sweet Mal Meningas sake, because the Australian government would like to use rugby league to do something with regional aid or sufficiency, or something, I dont know, I didnt hear much more of his explanation because I was gob-dangling speechless that old mate was actually talking about Papua New bloody Guinea as a dinkum locale for a red-and-black comeback. Its a bad merge. South Sydney who have a partnership with Norths were not happy with this decision and declared that there would be no NRL pathway for Carney and declared that they might withdraw their relationship with Norths as a result. Maybe not instant. Norths player Drew Hutchison also had a bad match kicking two goals from six attempts including one from right in front to send the game into extra-time. Sheesh Teddy you want to move the Roosters to the "Eastern Seabed".The gimps have to breath now and again mate.Bloody hard to knock on or flick pass 100 fathoms below the surface. And lo did journos On The Pulse and encrypted WhatsApp chats spread the love about the arcane and business-like practices the Commission was mooting to shift a Sydney club out of town, to ensure viability and profitability, to uphold the greater good, or whatever reason they might use to shift a team in a Ken-Cowley-taking-Super-League-to-the-massive-untapped-markets-of-New-York-Johannesburg-and-Hong-Kong kind of way. Speaking . They knew: tribalism is good. Knock On Effect NSW Cup Draw; Harvey Norman Women's Premiership. And have a massive march in March. And the fans went with them. This was also Matt King's final game of Rugby League. Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox! ll never forget the first time the Bears caused me pain. But Fittler believes the perfect destination is at their feet, if Manly agree. See: The Northern Eagles. The Dolphins losing the Redcliffe bit is madness. 25-12 against Parramatta and 23-2 the following week against Canterbury. With the score 12-8 in favour of Newcastle with less than 10 minutes to play Jason Taylor set up Michael Buettner for a try which made the score 12-12. Its from that place. Its more than watch footy in the catchments serving Roosters, Rabbitohs, Dragons, Sharks, Sea Eagles and Bulldogs. [3], North Sydney was formed as a foundation club of the newly arrived rugby league game in 1908 and were initially known as the Shoremen. Its why they invest in a footy team with themselves, with emotion, with money. Who are these people? 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