Yes it is very important that there is a Tyson plant nearby in both of the crimes. In two August court filings, Kline's attorney said that his client was "exploring other legal options" about his child porn charges and negotiating with prosecutors. Because sometimes searchers get lost too. They supplied each others alibi, technically, without saying CSI guy is a suspect. It looks like a stuffed holiday (Christmas) Tweety bird to me. "We were called in on Wednesday to tell us they had detained somebody, so weve had a couple more days to process this," Becky Patty said. Doug Carter, superintendent of the Indiana State Police, announced Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi has been charged with two counts of murder in the deaths of Libby and Abby. However, they only cut pigs throats that way in kosher slaughterhouses. Photo: Courtesy Mike and Becky Patty. ", The detective said: "Then why'd you search?". DELPHI, Ind. Here in Gary, about two years ago, a special needs woman and a toddler she lived with went missing. Kline denied involvement in the girls' deaths, calling the timing of his correspondence with Libby a "weird a** coincidence.". Indiana State Police plan a Monday morning news conference to update the investigation of the Delphi murders and who might have killed Libby German and . Indiana State Police confirmed to WISH-TV on Wednesday afternoon that the search ended after six weeks. As for McLeland's concern for the safety of the witnesses, Rozzi said, I havent heard, nor have I seen in the evidence presented, any actionable threats.. (WISH) Investigators believe the bodies of Abby Williams and Libby German were moved and staged at the Delphi murder scene, according to court documents obtained by I-Team 8. Ronald Logan died Jan. 24, 2022. Alt Left: Trotsky on Fascism: One of the Best Analyses of Fascism Ever Written, VIDEO: Danse Macabre! Prosecutors fueled speculation during Tuesday's hearing that Richard Allen was not alone when they allege he killed Libby German and Abby Williams in early 2017. So he killed them and then left them a Valentines Day gift for Valentines Day! Allen is being held at the White County jail without bond and has hearing dates scheduled for January and March 2023. I also think the girls went to the bridge to meet YGS, but they got OGS instead, or possibly both. The next day, volunteers from the community formed a search party, and found the girls bodies in a wooded area near the trail. Could you imagine, all the accomplices connected? During a search of Allen's home on Oct. 13, 2022, officers found knives and guns, including a "Sig Sauer, Model P226, .40-caliber pistol," the probable cause affidavit said. Delphi was revenge for Flora. The bad guy knew they would be at the bridge that day bc they told someone or the bad guy overheard conversation by way of being close to the family, being nearby as drop off and pick up plans were made. that they must witness throughout their careers and how extremely difficult it must be to deal with. Theres one reason I think we can all think of, best left unmentioned, and another, that they were out in the nowhere, possibly hunting but far away from the crime scene. The Delphi Murder Tip Line was routed to the FBI's Major Case Contract Center in Washington, D.C because of the sheer number of calls they were receiving. 187 5.6K views 2 years ago THE DELPHI MURDERS - THE SEARCH (MINDSHOCK TRUE CRIME PODCAST CLIPS) Breaking down the search in the case. Almost yours: 2 weeks, on us 100+ live channels are waiting. ( as I said, I took this as I would a rumor-type of info and the only thing I've ever read about the crime scene. We now have two search party members who are backing up some of these bizarre allegations. Then again if it was recent, makes me wonder if the guilt of covering up for Mr. X may have been eating him up inside? ", Jury inspect eerie Murdaugh murder scene where mom & son were executed, US Navy faces being totally outgunned by China in just seven years, says expert, Dances with Wolves actor pleads not guilty in 'sex cult' case, TikTok star, 28, is charged with child abuse after 'attack on boyfriend', 2020 THE SUN, US, INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED | TERMS OF USE | PRIVACY | YOUR AD CHOICES | SITEMAP, Travis Trexler was arrested on DUI charges, Kegan Kline was contacting Libby German through a catfish social media account the night before she was murdered, Libby (left) was murdered alongside her best-friend Abigail Williams (right) in Feb. 2017, Travis Trexler is a cousin of Kegan Kline's, Police ended a six-week search of the Washab River on Wednesday, The culprit behind the murders has never been identified, Precisely how the two girls were killed has never been revealed by police. He was charged with a probation violation for driving with a suspended license. Before Tuesday's hearing, prosecutors filed a motion for what amounts to a gag order, asking the court to bar statements or comments outside of the courtroom from all involved attorneys, law enforcement officials, court personnel, the coroner and family members. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Are you questioning that claim? The motive is likely to be a lot sicker than that. This is one reason I dont think JBC is BG. One of those suspects was John Miller, convicted in 2018 for a 1988 murder of an 8-year-old girl. Its about Abby and Libby, their families and this community.. Regardless of what I could happen to "find" by searching as I stated further above in a post, if anyone needed help in my area I would surely help! Authorities conducted an all-day search of the Delphi double murder suspect's property around 10 days before his arrest, sources told The Post. The agent goes on to say I believe there is probable cause to believe that RONALD LOGAN has committed the crime of murder and evidence of that can be found on RONALD LOGANS property.. I generally accept it however because to assume otherwise would be to assume that the entire police force and townsfolk who were in the search party waited longer than what made sense. She is rumored to have been brutalized more than Abby. We will refer to this new informant as SPM2 for Search Party Member 2. Allen, who entered a preliminary plea of not guilty, was sent to the White County Jail without bond. Its just conjecture," he said in rebuttal to McLeland's argument. How was it organized? Citizens? A spokesperson for the Wabash County Jail declined to provide additional information when contacted by The U.S. Sun but said the arrest was unrelated to the probe into the Delphi probe the site of a 2017 double murder to which Trexlers cousin, but not Trexler himself, has been linked by prosecutors. ", The detective then asked: "So why would you worry about your DNA being on that body? Next to the drawing, for no apparent reason, is an unusual (to me) looking knife. Yes, thats one thing I am not sure about. Another chilling detail recovered from Libertys phone emerged about a week after the girls were found a recording of what might have been the killers voice. Why would they do that? I am so suspicious of Mr. Xs cemetery hangout and if the rumor about the keys being at the site is true. That should at least tell us something. A grifter is literally a criminal fraudster and he is breaking the law. After the Leaker leak came out, I guess things hotted up and he moved to his other property in Monticello maybe to get out of the heat for a while. Any theories? A kind of sick taunt? I read somewhere an account by a search party member from the night before, that one of the search party organizers prevented his group from searching the actual crime scene by saying you all cant go here, its been searched already. That seems proven at this point. Privacy Policy. This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. From the very beginning, I felt that the perp(s) is/are local, and that they knew the girls through the friends and family circles. The original female search party member (SPM1) also spoke independently with another member of my team, a woman. It seems wrong somehow that it could be this narcissistic doofus. Abby Williams, 13, and Liberty "Libby" German, 14, had gone for a. Press J to jump to the feed. They had been keeping this a secret for all this time, but this secret was starting to bother her and eat away at her, so she released it to a member of my team, a woman. A very popular one is the observation that if the crime scene was this insane, it would have leaked out by now. News outlets throughout the state, including Gannett, the Hoosier State Press Association and the Indiana Broadcasters Association, filed a brief Monday in favor of the documents' release. He actually thinks women are going for bad men and leaving nice guys and good men like him alone. But definitely I dont know him.". They force his wife to abandon their house.. in which I've ever, thankfully, have had to witness anything so utterly horrible. I am looking on thoughts on this guy as well. Theres nothing pathological about oversharing. The photo, which was recovered from Libertys cellphone, showed a man who authorities said was walking on the Delphi Historic Trails and might have participated in the murders, according to a news release. For more information, please see our "It could potentially have nothing to do with the girls at all, and that's the sickening thing about it all, that it gets all this talk, but it may have nothing to do with them, and then I get myself all upset over nothing. The pre-hearing courtroom chatter grew quiet as deputies led Allen into the courtroom from a back door. Thats one theory we are looking at. They certainly have my appreciation. omygosh what a shame! I mean, surely folks would know if a well-known, local who became a POI was in on the search? As we all know, LE has kept info about the crime scene and the girls' COD, etc., strictly "close to the vest"). It is our theory that Mr. X stalked Libby on Snapchat for four months until the murders. He tells off women in passive-aggressive hostile posts. Instead he was with the team that found the bodies. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: People are donating lots of money to Delphi podcasters Mike Greeno and Gray Hughes, which is their right. I dont see anyone refuting these claims besides the people on the internet who werent there and want to believe every single last syllable LE says. Follow on Twitter: @RonWilkins2. Contact her at rfradette@indystar.com or follow her on Twitter at @Rachel_Fradette. Rozzi rhetorically asked. So this implies that the two men were alone with each other, surely. Officials weren't sure just how many volunteers came, but sign-in sheets appeared to log hundreds." According to prosecutors, Kline used a bogus social media profile with the username "anthony_shots" to contact and illicit nude photographs from numerous underage girls. State Police say Kline admitted using the fake profile to get sexual pictures and videos of nearly 100 underage girls. VERY strange indeed. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. You have a million people who come out and say OMG THERES JUST NO WAY A BIG STUFFED BEAR WAS LEFT AT THE CRIME SCENE ABSOLUTELY NOT. But even if LE told the searchers not to tell people what they saw that day, Im sure they can at least say whether or not something for sure wasnt there. And also know if any of the POIs were around that night, right? The arrest has been long awaited by the families of Liberty and Abigail, as well as for the community of Delphi, which has kept a close eye on the investigation. Either he went there to hunt or he was set off by their rudeness and then, enraged, decided to teach them a lesson, Libby in particular. (WLS) -- There is a new push for information four years after police found teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams dead, in Delphi, Indiana. Otherwise I think there is some hammer that comes down and hits the pig in the head. Its sad. Delphi murders:Review the case through 5 years of reporting Initially, the media filed a motion to intervene in November, requesting the court to unseal Allen's probable cause affidavit, his . We must trust their sources and investigative techniques. But get this. His FB artwork containing two dripping roses and a skull, along with swirls of blonde hair. See how people are reading too much into this guy? Support the best Delphi sleuthing group of all! Please correct me if you know otherwise. Also and this constantly nags at me, if LE really has one person, Mr X, in mind but just cannot resolve his alibi, wouldnt that name get around in a small town? McLeland said the public and media interest in the case rekindled after Allen's arrest, and Allen's wife had to flee the community. He said hes hiding in plain sight," Patty said. Logan was never formally named a suspect and never charged in the Delphi murders. I live on a fixed income which is barely above the poverty level. ", Delphi killings:4 things we learned about arrest in deaths of Liberty German and Abigail Williams. "If he is leading us on another wild goose chase, then that would be gut-wrenching.". Problem is that CSI cop NM was the one providing the alibi for Mr. X, so that theory doesnt work. -- There may be a potential break in the unsolved murders of two teenage girls in Delphi, Indiana. The agent said Logan contacted his cousin and asked him to tell that story before the bodies were found. Or a twisted kind of guilt or compassion for the girls? SPM2 also reported that there were stuffed animals at the crime scene. There was no mention of what type of stuffed animals they were or how big they were. Just a thought. Validated through one of your LE sources? Kline is in jail awaiting trial on 30 charges related to child pornography, but he has not been charged in the Delphi murders. Becky Patty reflected on the importance of Monday's announcement, speaking steadily and calmly, telling reporters she had envisioned a different reaction. It's unusual, infrequent to seal those documents, McLeland said but he felt it was necessary because of the extra scrutiny tied to the killings. Five years after Liberty German and Abigail Williams were killed in Delphi, Indiana, 50-year-old Richard Allen has been charged with their murders. Its not his mother and its not the Exorcist girl, its Libby. Thats how he knew they were going to be there at that date and time. What strikes me about this rumor regarding the dolls at the crime scene is that it was mentioned in the leaked Erskine texts that Abby was found placed on the ground like a doll I always wondered why Erskine would describe it like that. Five years ago today, in Delphi, Ind., two best friends, Abigail Williams, 13, and Liberty German, 14, went missing while on a hike through the city's . By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Abby Williams and Libby German, both 13, were murdered. We definitely need to look into this a lot further, thats for sure. He tells off women in passive aggressive hostile posts. Only that there were stuffed animals. Hi Robert. News of Trexler's arrest comes as Indiana State Police announced they'd concluded a six-week-long search along the Wabash River in Peru, which is believed to be linked to the 2017 murders of best friends Abigail Williams and Libby German. Indiana State Police Im not sure about that. The arrest of Allen comes nearly six years after Libby and Abby were murdered. As per the transcript, Kline also allegedly searched "how long does DNA last" in the aftermath of the murders, in addition to Googling updates on the Delphi investigation and searching for information about other unsolved killings, including the murder of JonBentRamsey. But what shocks me is how little these men give their audiences in return for their purchases. To say that all of the details intertwined with so many different people and relationships is complex would be an understatement. Was just thinking this!! Big Tweety bird eyes. The revelations come just two weeks after authorities released a redacted version of the probable cause affidavit that led to Richard Allen's arrest. If not and it is him, did he know who THEY were? "We now move forward through the Indiana criminal justice system allowing the system to provide its due diligence and process," Carroll County SheriffTobe Leazenbysaid at a press conference inside Delphi United Methodist Church. CVS worker Richard Matthew Allen, 50, was charged in October after an analysis concluded a 40-caliber round that was found between the bodies of 14-year-old Libby German and 13-year-old Abby Williams had come from a gun he owned, according to a probable cause affidavit made public Tuesday. As far as whether there was a giant 5 foot stuffed animal left at the crime scene, even though I can see that thing clear as air, that rumor is so insane that I am not going to believe unless I get some further testimony. oh so he died recently? In his arguments against unsealing Allen's probable cause affidavit, Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland cited the need to protect the investigation as well as to protect the names of witnesses who might testify against Allen. In addition, I can see a stuffed animal in the crime scene photo. He catfished them by pretending to be a cute 19 year old boy. "I don't know what they're looking for it could be a weapon, it could be a laptop, it could be something as small as a trophy from the murders - it could be anything. Theyre seeing whatever they want to see in him. No, but no way is this guy involved. You disagree that the Delphi Murders are connected to what? A man being eyed in the unsolved 2017 murders of two teens in Delphi, Indiana, has an "evil streak" and is "absolutely capable" of committing that type of crime, his brother said. We cannot publicly convict someone based on a single document which was not released by investigators. Is this confirmed? Maybe because he witnessed real dolls where the girls were found? Its the wife herself supposedly coming back to give him his keys. His voice sounds very like the phone recording, raspy. Were not doing that anymore. "While theres somebody thats been arrested, our lives for five and a half years have been in a search mode and thats what weve done. (and probably always will) Obviously, they saw how their bodies were left and considering that, might have knowledge of how they were murdered from that scene. Greenos videos are almost completely worthless, and group members who have spoken to him told me he has nothing new to add to the case. He was in the area because he liked rail bridges, had endless hours to wander, and perhaps was hoping for an opportunity to grab a young girl. "It's obviously significant in some way; I can only just hope that it's for the girls, but we don't know. Or by their accounts, what were they doing? I am close in age to Chadwell and I cannot imagine writing things like that. LE did not say it was over by 3 pm-ish. The multi-agency task force working on the Delphi case is certain that the new sketch accurately depicts the face of the man who killed Abby and Libby. If yes, they can sort out the crime scene DNA, right? Also close friends with Ron Logan and Tobe Lozenby! The basics of personal finance, like How to save for a house. Figure out your next step toward financial freedom. A five-and-a-half-year nationwide search for a suspect in the killings of two Indiana teens ended with the arrest of a local man, authorities said Monday.. How investigators came to arrest 50-year . In addition, SPM2 also reported the same dolls hanging from trees that SPM1 report. As a psychologist though, It does makes me stop and think about LE and the types of scenes and different tragedies etc. is that that damned stuffed animal is as tall as Abby. Think about it like this. Keeping the documents secret only heightens the public's curiosity about the case, Rozzi said. This is apparently all correct! Every time one comes up, everybody flips and says this is the guy!! Whats that a photo of above then? Stuffed animals at a double murder scene are weird enough, granted. His complaint is typical of tens of millions of single men his age in the US today. I myself have short lower legs and a long thigh area, so I noticed this right away. He was very well-liked in town. This is from NMs obit: he was a Crime Scene Technician. His trial is tentatively set to begin on March 20. The tip line number is 1-844-459-5786. LE thinks BG did Evansdale and they think BG is Mr. X, correct. Will the public interest be substantially served by limiting access?" And on the other side of the fence, single women bitch a lot about us men too. A large amount of blood was lost by the victims at the crime scene, the agent writes. 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