This is sophomoric at best. Youngstown, OH. There are those whod love to discredit stories like yours, bc of their own prejudices & preferences while at the same time having a holier than though attitude that would put a Holy Roller Southern Baptist to shame. This definition of Tradition is what the FSSP publicly holds as a condition of being received into new church. I want news I can use, and information about my beloved Church that either furthers my knowledge about her, or warns me about those who want to destroy her. (1 Cor:23). But for the Presidents creativity, the College would have failed two years before it did. There is a glee I read here when piokolby and rich and some others come out with yet another outrageous statement about somebody. Keep up the great work. Congrats. Father John Marcus Berg, F.S.S.P. Full communion is a VC2 heresy. The leadership of the FSSP and the Bishop of Father Paul Nicholson need to do their duty. john6 Father Wolfe has been transferred in the normal round of these and is obviously needed elsewhere. If sedevacantist friends or family have done that to you, or anyone, its a shame. A Person stands behind the doctrine and morals. (Or he was last time I was around there, at any rate. However, there are a couple of ways to regain perspective and renew vigor. Tulsa, OK +Wmson is therefore blind himself imagine St. John the Baptist (or Jesus) stating that the high priests, scribes and pharisees were good people . The evidence is all around us. Fort Worth, TX We covered this recently enough, so I wont go into more detail here. A commenter on Twitter recently asked me if I am "officially a sedevacantist.". Michael Voris right now has a post up attacking the SSPX and he directly links to the FSSP site in Scotland and names Father John Emerson FSSP. Below, Ill provide in italics what I consider the most noteworthy parts of Voris videos such as they have been released to date, with my commentary immediately to follow. They do beleive a pope can be a formal herectic and maintain his postion as pope , the new mass is valid all priests are considered vailidy ordained and the bishops in the new rite are fine aswell. Many people think the Dimond bros are fanatics (God knows what they would think of St. John the Baptist, Jesus Christ or even St. Paul or St. Catherine of Sienna etc.) But not so with you, you came forth to talk. A cardinal such as Cardinal Burke should speak the truth no matter what the modernist destroyers want. Rev. . The FSSP really is apart of the novus ordo. There can be room for disagreement but not when its Our Lord Himself speaking. Voris and Fisher more college are just the latest in a long line of horrors. Sacrificate sacrificium justitiae, et sperate in Domino, Telephone: (570) 842-4000Fax: (570) 319-9770info@fssp.com, Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter450 Venard RoadSouth Abington Township, PA 18411, SupportPrivacy PolicyMachine Readable Files, Adjutorium Program (Masses for Living and Deceased Members), Webinar Today: St. John Bosco Camp Application Launch. Vancouver, BC Both Verrecchio and Voris are about exactly my age born at the tail end of the American baby boomers and although not a bit as courageous or knowledgeable in the faith as them, I really commiserate with both their stories. The worst criticism of the SSPX sure comes from the Novus Ordo Traditionalists. The Church is Christ, in her visible human element and invisible divine element, living through the ages in such a way as to be a place of dogmatic and moral security as a house built on rock, and where one understands how to love and live from the Person who is Life itself. FSSP International The FSSP constitutions in 2003 bound the FSSP to the document that contains lies and heresy. All that said, I found it very unfortunate that Bishop Olson yanked away the TLM without providing any alternative using his own resources, either at the college or within reasonable proximity to it. You have some excellent points in your comments, but I agree with Mr. Matt on this one. I dont remember reading anywhere that Sr. Lucy said that diabolical disorientation would be the sole purview of liberals or modernists. Hi, my2cents, Wolfe. I will not take it any further than that here, with respect to Louies request to engage in sedevacantist disussions at length not here, but in the forums. Fort Wayne, IN Ottawa, ON Will the FSSP issue a public statement saying that Father Wolfe does not speak for the FSSP and his views are his own? That should be past tense, i.e. Servant of our lady i looked at your two links and read them again. Voris- shmoriswho cares? And yes, most especially under the duress we all endure. Home Base - Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter Home Base by Fr. Whether you believe the Pope IS the Pope (but in grave error and behaving as a Heretic) or the Pope IS NOT the Pope (for the same reasons), the fact remains that we are all suffering Catholics, striving to restore what is birthright membership through Baptism in the True Church of Christthe Holy, Roman Catholic Church. A home then is not a sum of commands or rules given by a father or mother. (Mt 16:15) There is only one correct answer to this question, upon which is built the entire deposit of Faith. All it takes for evil to happen is for good people to do nothing but keep walkin along w/Pope Francis. ********** The FSSP parish runs a school and the local diocese enforces a policy that all adults who work with children must have a criminal background check and fingerprint search. No wonder then, that at the beginning of the liturgical year the Church employs the imperative Excita Stir up! The FSSP superiors have already been notified: http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/fr.-john-emerson-fssp-on-his-break-from-the-sspx Will the FSSP leaders act? 2nd group those that attend TLM this can range from someone who may attend a weekday TLM or sunday TLM but who still likes to be involved with their local parish and who sees no problem with new mass. Hello: I am a sedevacantist. Dallas, TX Catholics are STILL watching and waiting. 15:5). 777 Forest St., St. Paul, MN 55106 I think some charity is in order here. (I also think Drumms defense of the Dudley affair is unpersuasive. The FSSP are bad actors. I think that for piety, for love of Our Lord, and for love of the Holy Father (no matter how bad he is), we ought to publicly resist his errors based on the previous Popes throughout history. Liturgical Guides to the Seasons Sunday 22nd October. 3:00pm Closing Talk - Fr. Be convinced that He always leaves His runaways with a key to get back into the house. Are they abandoning it if they fail to adopt the same posture as the SSPX? Views and opinions expressed in the Missive are solely the writers and do not necessarily reflect those of the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter. Fr. Besides its probable connection to ChurchMilitant.coms zeal against the SSPX, the unraveling of Fisher More College (the presidents fiscal leadership aside) is a stark study just how quickly Church power will coalesce to suppress an institution whose express mission is Traditional Catholic Formation (unless of course the institution was grandfathered in and has swallowed every conciliar tenet proffered since grandfather died). Please keep all those involved in this situation in your prayers.. Sacramento, CA There is a growth in insight into the realities and words that are being passed on. He pretends he never believed anything other than what he spews today. But how to do so when belief seems so uncertain or dark? Lexington, KY The Missive. I like Rad Trad would like to say more but in Justice I can not. All of these evils, in fact, are their responsibility. Kansas City/Westwood, KS I would submit that a reasonably well-formed Catholic of average intelligence can indeed arrive at a high degree of certainty that the dictates of the post-conciliar popes with respect to the SSPX (as it concerns issues surrounding Vatican II and the new Mass) are not manifestations of the will of the Father. Priest: Fr Gerard Saguto FSSP. marian I was there in the pew EVERY time. Liars and cowards is what the two I spoke to wereand one was the former head of the order here in America. Richmond, VA When Pope John Paul II had the Assisi meeting Archbishop Lefebvre pleaded with the good Cardinals like Siri and Oddi to make a public protest to defend the honor of the Church. I dont know what it means to be disobedient to the Pope even when doing so would help to save souls. What would such an occasion look like for me as a layman? So, to your point upon which we disagree, issues matter not-only the Faith matters. Unfortunately, it is about to go the way of The DuMont Television Network, which was more entertaining. In reality, it is far more likely the case that it was used with permission, tacit or otherwise, thanks perhaps to Terry Carroll and his Mater Dei connection. This comes about in various ways. De maria. Michael Matt interviewed him in Mexico recently, I believe. Voris has, in many cases, exposed the corruption inside the N.O. . These are the signs of an unstable mind. Hopefully, if they no longer agree with the direction of the SSPX they havent remained to poison the well as it were. Their website didnt say where he was going. Mine is no1. Their bad fruit is well know. Stop using deceptive language. Tragically the position ruling the evidence mode into which the SSPX has morphed is a hook that draws, as in removing a vaudeville performer from a stage . For this reason Catholics must be wary of them. Allentown, PA Furthermore, Ive been informed that Fr. FSSP Missions His position hardened somewhat in his final years (during which, I might maintain, he probably still would have sprung for either the 2000 or 2012 structure deals offered to Fellay, based on what I know of them), but the fact is that he really did try to work obediently if it would be allowed, even to a papacy that was increasingly singing a modernist hymn. I still hadnt found out who Fr. The early Christians were hiding from the pagans in their day, says Michael Matt in this video: Rather, a home is ultimately an interaction between personalities that are supposed to be loving each other spouses, parents, children, siblings, grandparents. The only people that ran anywhere were the faithless and feckless fools who, many unknowingly, just accepted the Council and the new Mass as gifts from Almighty God. Ive never described myself as an expert on Vatican Council II, but Michael Voris has described me as such, on air, and even ribbed me in a good natured way saying We dont do false humility here when I resisted the idea. Apr 20, 2020. Sacramento, CA It cannot be said in correct, exact, and precise terms that there is a schism. Fr. Quincy, IL Im glad you agree that Fisher Mores story is so important. Louie does a fine job of using his layman status in the correct way, although he steps over the line on occasion. dear salvemur, In charity, I pray that every Catholic should be as blessed. Dear john6, The majority do beleive there were true popes since 1958. I know he is a good priest striving for holiness. God. Dear Adam 95, Dear Scott, Until then, Ill continue to uphold the duty of engaging his folly here such as Im able. Youre coming out of your usual comfort zone. Yet, he sticks with it like glue. Voris and Co. no longer has an interest in urging their viewers to do that; Voris simply wants to dictate to the audience what serves him best. Lets revisit what Voris (and Fr. A group like CMRI *does* accept those consequences, quite readily; they are not bothering to depend on any bishops but their own for their apostolates. Look, if Michael had a genuine change of heart such that he now feels compelled to change his previous (and well disseminated) stance of these matters, he would address them head on. FSSP pastors are . Wigratzbad Seminary 3 options 1. In the meantime, Im glad to say that I now fully support you and have put my money where my mouth is. Los Angeles, CA Providence, RI His pastor for some time (until very recently) was Fr. Many cant wait to give the high-five, and say Amen. I know a fair number of Fraternity priests, and they are among the finest priests I have ever met. Clearly many of them have the Faith and are holy. Ive done that in this space many times, speaking of how I once naively believed one thing about the Council, the Mass and even the SSPX, only to have my eyes opened to the truth. This is the price for full communion, but the truth remains that all three of these things (the Novus Ordo, the Council and the shenanigans of the popes) represent a grave danger to souls. Member of the traditionalist Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter. The full details of what happened at Fisher Moore College need to be made public. Vancouver, BC The Fraternity is known for celebrating the Mass and sacraments in Latin in what is known as the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite, following the liturgical books that were in place in 1962, prior to the liturgical reforms of the Second Vatican Council. http://iconicjesus.org/home/category/objections-to-divine-mercy-sunday/. hi, scott, http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/1973-new-from-remnant-tv-a-ceasefire-the-fssp-vs-the-sspx So I hope we can say that we whole heartedly agree that such warm discourse between sedevacanists & Catholics who oppose is the way not only that it should be, but it is the way we are called to be. Iv read and listened to lots of different people speak against this devotion but it never changed my mind. We can point out very effectively what is happening without name-calling, and certainly without shouting from the rooftops that this priest, this bishop, this society or association is in mortal sin mostly because we dont like what they have done in particular circumstances. I dont follow Mr. Voris. Novus Ordo Traditionalists That is the most Orwellian phrase I have ever heard. Domus Generalis FSSP - Chemin du Schoenberg 8 - CH-1700 Fribourg (Suisse) . A few years ago, there was a large national media initiative to reach out to lapsed Catholics called Catholics Come Home. The error can be found in document ecclesia dei in 1988 and was made more clear in 2003 with the FSSP constitutions. FSSP en MEXICO - Oficial 14.7K subscribers Subscribe Like Share 1.8K views 1 year ago Esto es una pequesima muestra de lo que da identidad a la FSSP. It comes through the contemplation and study of believers who ponder these things in their hearts. There are disagreements (none of which involve Doctrine or Dogma it must be emphasized,) which can only be resolved by the Authority of One to Whom the Authority of the Keys has been given by virtue of lack of any impediment, IOW a reigning pontiff who is protected by the Holy Ghost from giving the faithful anything contrary to the Faith, even within the exercise of the Universal Ordinary Magisterium. The SSPX is not under the jurisdiction of the local bishop thats why they are able to talk freely about the council and the heresy of modernism that is rampant in the church today. radtrad, Objectively, absolutely nothing will change whatsoever, which brings me back to Fr. Very dear and close friends, who fought side by side with me and my family to defend the Catholic faith, have literally turned their backs on us and pretend they never even knew us. 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